Ancestors of Christopher John Augustine Morry




Living 
      Sex: F
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
       Children:
                1. Living
Frances Jessie Green 
      Sex: F
AKA: Fanny Caines 1068, Frances Jessie Caines, Frances Jessie Green 583, Jessie Frances Green 5040
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 20 Dec 1865 - Hants Harbour, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 5040
    Christening: 
          Death: 4 May 1932 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ( at age 66) 233
         Burial: 
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Events

•  Religion: Methodist, 20 Dec 1865, Hants Harbour, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 

•  Alt. Birth: Cir 1866, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 

•  Residence: Knight St., Jan 1888, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.  (Occupant) 

•  Residence: Knight St., Oct 1889, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.  (Occupant) 

•  Residence: Flavins Lane, Between Jul and Sep 1891, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.  (Occupant) 

•  Residence: Gower St., Oct 1895, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.  (Occupant) 

•  Census: Levi Caines Household, East End Fire Hall, 1921, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.  (Household Member)
Parents 
         Father: Living
         Mother: Living
Spouses and Children 
1. *Levi Caines 583 
       Marriage: 16 May 1885 - Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 2730

Marriage Events

•  Alt. Marriage: Cir 1885, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 

•  Minister/Priest: A. C. H. Woods, 16 May 1885, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 

•  Witnesses: Alfred Buckley and George F. Bell, 16 May 1885, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 
       Children:
                1. Robert Thomas Caines
                2. Daisy May Caines
                3. Daniel Caines
                4. Levi Augustus Hugh Caines
                5. Florence Bell Caines
                6. Walter Herbert Caines
                7. Pte E. Leopold Caines RNR
                8. Shannon M. Caines
Living 
      Sex: M
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
James Green 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1861 - Weasenham, Norfolk, England 1118
    Christening: 
          Death: 
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Events

•  Census: Household of James and Pleasance Green and daughter Violet, 1901, Lynn, Norfolk, England. 

•  Occupation: Shepherd, 1901, Lynn, Norfolk, England. 

•  Census: Household of James Green, 1911, Shouldham Thorpe, Norfolk, England. 

•  Occupation: Shepherd, 1911, Shouldham Thorpe, Norfolk, England.
Spouses and Children 
1. *Pleasance 1118 
       Marriage: 
       Children:
                1. Violet Katherine Green
                2. Bertram Harold Green
Living 
      Sex: M
Parents 
         Father: John Green Sr. 3744
         Mother: Living
James Garfield Green 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 
    Christening: 
          Death: Bef 1922 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
       Children:
                1. Anthony Green Ayre OBE
Living 
      Sex: M
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
       Children:
                1. Frances Jessie Green
John Green Sr. 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 
    Christening: 
          Death: 1829 - Placentia, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 3744
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Will: Will of John Green, 30 Mar 1829, Placentia, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Will of John Green
from Newfoundland will books volume 1 page 73 probate year 1829.

In the Estate of
     John Green       deceased.

The last will and testament of John Green Senr of Placentia in the Island of Newfoundland In the name of God Amen I John Green Senr make this my last will and testament. I resign my soul to its Creator, in all humble hope of its futer happiness, as in the disposal of a Being infinitely Good, as to my body my will is that it may be buried near my Brother in Placentia, I hereby make and appoint John Corbin and John Blanch executors of this my last will and testament, I bequeath to my son John Green the part of ye Downs that has been marked out for him with Woody Point and the house and two gardins at Point Verd. I leave to my daughter Maria Green & alias Bradshaw the liberty of cutting two tun of hay on the meadows as it shall be pointed out to her by my son William Green, also the prilivage of as much Ground on the bog as would set six barrels Potatoes and two Cows to be given her next year with the privilege of grassing them on the Commons. I give to my son Robert Green a Cow and a Calf the calf to be given this spring and the cow in the fall following. All the rest of my property in lands and Chattels &c to become the property of William and James Green each one half out of which they are to support their mother during her natural life, and should she leave them they are to allow her twenty pounds a year during her natural life to be given her according as she may want. The Fishing Room to be imployed by John & William and James Green equal alike with the usual liberty for John Corbin to cure his Fish on said Room. This is my last will and testament this 30th day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty nine
Signed sealed and declared by the testator as his last will and testament in presence of us John Green (LS)   Edward Larkin.   John Blanch.

Certified Correct
D. M. Browning
Registrar.
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
       Children:
                1. Living
                2. Living
                3. Living
                4. Living
                5. Living
Notes
General:
100620 from NGB:

Will of John Green
from Newfoundland will books volume 1 page 73 probate year 1829.

In the Estate of
John Green deceased.

The last will and testament of John Green Senr of Placentia in the Island of Newfoundland In the name of God Amen I John Green Senr make this my last will and testament. I resign my soul to its Creator, in all humble hope of its futer happiness, as in the disposal of a Being infinitely Good, as to my body my will is that it may be buried near my Brother in Placentia, I hereby make and appoint John Corbin and John Blanch executors of this my last will and testament, I bequeath to my son John Green the part of ye Downs that has been marked out for him with Woody Point and the house and two gardins at Point Verd. I leave to my daughter Maria Green & alias Bradshaw the liberty of cutting two tun of hay on the meadows as it shall be pointed out to her by my son William Green, also the prilivage of as much Ground on the bog as would set six barrels Potatoes and two Cows to be given her next year with the privilege of grassing them on the Commons. I give to my son Robert Green a Cow and a Calf the calf to be given this spring and the cow in the fall following. All the rest of my property in lands and Chattels &c to become the property of William and James Green each one half out of which they are to support their mother during her natural life, and should she leave them they are to allow her twenty pounds a year during her natural life to be given her according as she may want. The Fishing Room to be imployed by John & William and James Green equal alike with the usual liberty for John Corbin to cure his Fish on said Room. This is my last will and testament this 30th day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty nine
Signed sealed and declared by the testator as his last will and testament in presence of us John Green (LS) Edward Larkin. John Blanch.

Certified Correct
D. M. Browning
Registrar


Emails concerning John Green of Placentia May 2023:

Christopher,
yes there are many John Greens - every son of every Green family named one of their sons John. There are some James but not as many.

The John Green on your website is my 3rd great grandfather , born 1737, died 1829 and the author of the Will you have posted. His 2nd wife was widow Corbin. He is the father of Maria who married James Bradshaw around 1840 as recorded on your website. Emma and James had 2 daughters Lucy and Emma (could be more) baptized in Argentia, who would have been Bradshaws and married. Emma married a James Boyle from Ireland.
John 1st son, Maria's 1/2 brother, James married Elizabeth Hill around 1836. This James also had a son James born about 1840.

So yes there are many of the same name in the same and different generations. Most of my research has centred around John 1st son John as my father is his direct descendant. Since John 2nd was born in 1790, before widow Corbins husband died, I have assumed that John 2nd is not the son of widow Corbin - widow Corbin is the mother of only some of John 1st children. John Corbins headstone is in a Placentia area graveyard. I assume it is unlikely that she had children with John3rd until her husband died. There is family folklore about John and how his Irish wife , widow Corbin made him give up his Protestant ways before she married him - the facts are scanty about whether it was Quaker or Mason regalia - although it appears he never converted and was buried in the old Anglican cemetery in Placentia while she was buried in the RC cemetery.

But getting back to my original question - my interest was peaked when I saw your site contained info on my John Green and Greens from the Southern Shore as I have been trying to figure out if there's a connection between the Point Verde Greens, the Southern Shore Greens, the Old Perlican Greens, the Trinity Greens, the Burin Greens and the Greens on the islands in Placentia Bay. I guess my search continues until I come across more research.

Thank you
Dolores

Sent from my iPad

> On May 3, 2023, at 1:09 PM, cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca> wrote:
>
> again:
>
> I'm sorry but I cannot help you with this level of information which does not include dates. It would be very possible that there were over the years several men in that area named John Green with sons named James and an unnamed daughter who married an unnamed Bradshaw. This is all too vague to make anything out of.
>
> The only person named Green that I have in my family tree who married anyone named Bradshaw was a woman named Marie Green but I don't know when she lived or married. Born ca 1810 I suspect. Her husband was a police constable named James Bradshaw.
>
> We might be dealing with people who lived in different decades or even centuries.
>
> Sorry
>
> Christopher
>
> C. J. Morry
> cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dolores Billings <doloresbillings@nf.sympatico.ca <mailto:doloresbillings@nf.sympatico.ca>>
> Sent: May 3, 2023 1:24 AM
> To: cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca>
> Subject: Re: genealogy
>
> Christopher,
> I am descended from John Green- my great grandfather was John Green the 3rd. John Green lived in Point Verde, Placentia. I wondered about the southern shore Greens because they are listed on your website. John Green the 1st had a daughter who married a Bradshaw and they had 2 daughters. Johns son James married Mary Murphy. I have no record of any Green males marrying Bradshaw women so I am very interested in that info. Do you have more info about those males and birth and death dates so I can see where they fit in my family tree.
>
> As for the Point Verde Greens , I am not ruling out that they might be related to the Southern Shore Greens yet - just keeping an eye out for new info that will either confirm or rule it out.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dolores
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On May 2, 2023, at 8:50 PM, cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca> wrote:
>> Dolores:
>> It sounds as if we are talking about two completely different families. Where were your people located, in Placentia or on the Southern Shore? I do know of course that there was a large family of Green(e)s from the Cape Broyle area but they were in no way connected to the Green family of Placentia that intermarried with the Bradshaw family of Placentia. If you can provide more details on names, places and dates this should be easy to sort out with certainty.
>> All the best,
>> Christopher
>> C. J. Morry
>> cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dolores Billings <doloresbillings@nf.sympatico.ca <mailto:doloresbillings@nf.sympatico.ca>>
>> Sent: May 1, 2023 6:05 PM
>> To: cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca>
>> Subject: Re: genealogy
>> Could you tell me more about the James that married a Bradshaw. I knew that one of Johns daughters married a Bradshaw but did not know about the son. I had thought that James married a Mary Murphy.
>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> On May 1, 2023, at 1:27 PM, cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>> Dolores:
>>> The John Green of Placentia area in my tree is of interest to me
>>> only because of his connection via the marriage of his son James to
>>> consecutively two Bradshaw sisters who are distantly related to me.
>>> None of these people had any connection to the Southern shore that I know of.
>>> Best regards
>>> Christopher
>>> C. J. Morry
>>> cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dolores Billings <doloresbillings@nf.sympatico.ca <mailto:doloresbillings@nf.sympatico.ca>>
>>> Sent: April 30, 2023 1:33 PM
>>> To: cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca>
>>> Subject: Re: genealogy
>>> I just came across your genealogy site online. I noticed you had a
>>> John Green who was from Placentia area listed on the site. Was he
>>> one of your relatives and how is he connected to the southern shore Green/Greenes?
>>> Thank you
>>> Dolores Billings
>>> Sent from my iPad


Living 
      Sex: M
Parents 
         Father: John Green Sr. 3744
         Mother: Living
Living 
      Sex: M
Spouses and Children 
1. *Catherine  Mary Robertson Bayley 5 
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