Ancestors of Christopher John Augustine Morry




James Sloan 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1648 - Killyleagh, Down, Ulster, Northern Ireland 5165
    Christening: 
          Death: Cir 1704 - Norfolk, England ( about age 56)
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Parents 
         Father: Alexander Sloan 78
         Mother: Sara Hicks 78
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
       Children:
                1. Living
Notes
General:
James Sloane [Parents] was born in 1648. He died in 1704 in County NORFOLK,England. He married Mary Rumbold.

Mary Rumbold.Mary married James Sloane.

They had the following children:

M i Joseph Sloane

Living 
      Sex: M
Parents 
         Father: James Sloan 5165
         Mother: Living
Miriam Sloan 
      Sex: F
AKA: Mariam Sloan 8056
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1700 - Northern Ireland 78,1202
    Christening: 
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  LifeSketch: Cir 1700. Family lore has it that the mother of Ann Wylly was named Mariam, Marion, or Miriam Sloane(e) and that she was a sister/daughter/niece of Sir Hans Sloane, who founded the British Museum. The latter part of this lore is clearly wrong. He lived long before. 

•  Alt. Birth: Cir 1702, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
Spouses and Children 
1. *Alexander Wylly 78,168,454 
       Marriage: Cir 1712 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland 1932

Marriage Events

•  Alt. Marriage: Cir 1720. 
Marriage Notes 




280721:

Nimshi Crewe was obsessed with proving that there was a direct connection between Lord Baltimore via David Kirke's family through the Dobble and Benger families to the Wylly family and hence to the Carters of Ferryland. He did not invent this theory. It was brought to him in 1959 in the form of a family tree primarily focussed upon the Sweetlands but with the above lineage shown on the first page. 

The author of the version Nimshi saw was Mrs. Heber Angel, the sister of Sir Brian Dunfield, both of whom descended from the Sweetland line. But at least the first part of this family tree was supposed to have been originally penned by William Sweetland, the Stipendiary Magistrate of Bonavista, who was the son of Ann Carter by her second husband Henry Sweetland.

The copy of the family tree that Nimshi saw was loaned to a relative of Mrs. Angel from the mainland and he promptly went home with it and never returned it. But Nimshi had made a copy for his own records and we have to assume that it reflects fairly accurately what Mrs. Angel (and William Sweetland) had drawn.

Most of the early part of the theoretical lineage above was disproved by Nimshi, though he must have been devastated to give up this pet theory. The part that is of interest to the Morry and Carter family history is also contentious but has never been proved or disproved. It is the part beginning with a marriage between Alexander Wylly of Scotland and Miriam Sloan of Northern Ireland. Apparently this family tree is the primary source for that unproved "fact".

The first page of this family tree which shows this Wylly-Sloan union and their purported children (evidently based on notations in a bible published in Edinburgh in 1712 and belonging to Alexander Wylly, which was at one time in the possession of William Sweetland) is attached in the media folder here.

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290721:

The section of the above family tree attributed to Stipendiary Magistrate William Sweetland suggests that a bible belonging to Alexander Wylyy was printed in Edinburgh and showed that he married (there?) Miriam Sloan, the sister or niece of Sir Hans Sloan. The date given is 1712 but it is unclear if this date refers to the date of marriage or the date that the bible was published. Thus all the family trees that now appear on the web and presumably offline that reference this marriage are repeating what may be a misunderstanding as to the date of this marriage. One thing is clear, the assumed dates of birth of both Alexander and Miriam as being "ca 1700" make no sense if this date of marriage is correct.


       Children:
                1. Phillip Wylly
                2. Marion Wylly
                3. Elizabeth Wylly
                4. John Wylly
                5. Sarah Wylly
                6. Mary Wylly
Notes
General:
April 15, 2002:

Notes taken from a remembrance thought by Enid O'Brien to be by Helena Morry and now in the Morry Papers at PANL: "Grandmother Windsor's Grandmother or Great Grandmother was Miriam, Sister of Sir Hans Sloan, founder of the British Museum. She had twenty children."

This relationship is purely apocryphal. I can find no evidence to support it and plenty that disproves it. I have seen several family histories of Hans Sloan(e), none of which show that he had a sister Miriam. Moreover, her apparent birth year and age are a generation out of phase to be the sister of Hans.

I now believe that it was just as suspect and probably as false as the information on the royal parentage of Mary Graham.

111213:

Nevertheless I included the information on Hans Sloan and his family but have severed Miriam from it for now until it is positively disproven that she was related to them. At that time I will remove entirely the information on Hans Sloan and his family.

190614:

These are Jean Carter Stirling's notes on the mother of Anne Wylly:

"Anne is said to be from Scotland, daughter of Alexander and Mirian Wylley or Wylie. According to the IGI (Feb. 1996) her parents were Alexander Wylie and Mary Donaldson of Scotland. Possibly, then, Robert met her on his ports of call,as he was a seagoing individual.

BIRTH: IGI- Batch 115072 Film 6900996
The IGI (Feb. 1996) says that Ann had two sisters-
Mary Wylie christened 11/5/1721
Agnes Wylie christened 17/11/1723"

Living 
      Sex: F
Parents 
         Father: William Sloan 5165
         Mother: Living
Living 
      Sex: F
Parents 
         Father: Sir Hans Sloan Bart
         Mother: Elizabeth Langly 6051
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
William Sloan 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 17 Jan 1695/96
    Christening: 
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Parents 
         Father: William Sloan 5165
         Mother: Living
William Sloan 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1654 - Killyleagh, Down, Ulster, Northern Ireland 5165
    Christening: 
          Death: in Chelsea, Middlesex, England
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Parents 
         Father: Alexander Sloan 78
         Mother: Sara Hicks 78
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
       Children:
                1. Living
                2. William Sloan
Notes
General:
Annette Lloyd website: http://www3.sympatico.ca/afarquharson/pafg05.htm#230

William Sloane [Parents] was born in 1654 in Killileagh,County DOWN,Ireland. He died in Chelsea, MIDDLESEX Co. England. He married Jean Hamilton.

Jean Hamilton was born in Killyleagh,Down,Ireland. She married William Sloane.

They had the following children:

M i William Sloane was born on 17 Jan 1696.
F ii Sarah Sloane.

Living 
      Sex: F
Parents 
         Father: Sam Slotnikov 1144
         Mother: Sally 1144
Sam Slotnikov 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 
    Christening: 
          Death: Bef 20 Aug 2024 1144
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Military: Volunteered at age of 32, Cir 1939, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
Spouses and Children 
1. *Sally 1144 
       Marriage: 
       Children:
                1. Shirley Slotnikov
                2. Living
Shirley Slotnikov 
      Sex: F
AKA: Tsipie 1144
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
    Christening: 
          Death: 20 Aug 2024 - Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 1144
         Burial: 22 Aug 2024 - Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 1144
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Living: 20 Dec 2013.
Parents 
         Father: Sam Slotnikov 1144
         Mother: Sally 1144
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
       Children:
                1. Living
                2. Living
                3. Living
                4. Living

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