Living
Sex: F
Parents
Father: Thomas Phelan 697,698 Mother: Catherine McLoughlin 14,696,697,698
Spouses and Children
1. Living Children: 1. Catherine BarryCatherine Whelan
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth Date: 29 Jan 1870 - Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 14 Christening: 6 Feb 1870 - Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 14 Death: Burial: Cause of Death:Events
• Sponsors: Sponsors Mike and Peggy TOUHY, 6 Feb 1870, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland.
Parents
Father: Daniel Whelan 14 Mother: Jane Tuohy 14Living
Sex: F
Parents
Father: Patrick Joseph Whelan 4661 Mother: Angela Kent 1133,1134
Spouses and Children
1. Living Children: 1. Living 2. LivingLiving
Sex: F
Spouses and Children
1. *John D. Carter 10,3008 Marriage: Marriage NotesLiving
Corpus Christie RC ChurchChildren: 1. Living 2. Living 3. Living 4. Living 5. Living
Sex: F
Parents
Father: James Joseph Whelan 14,5547 Mother: Mary Ellen Hough 14,4374,5547Living
Sex: F
Parents
Father: Living Mother: LivingLiving
Sex: M
Parents
Father: James Joseph Whelan 14,5547 Mother: Mary Ellen Hough 14,4374,5547
Spouses and Children
1. Living Children: 1. Living 2. LivingDaniel Whelan
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth Date: Cir 1821 - Ballynavin, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 14 Christening: Death: Between Sep and Dec 1899 - Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 14 Burial: Cause of Death:Events
• Residence: 31 Jan 1859, Modreeny, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland.
Parents
Father: Thomas Phelan 697,698 Mother: Catherine McLoughlin 14,696,697,698
Spouses and Children
1. *Jane Tuohy 14 Marriage: 31 Jan 1859 - Grawn, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 14,5351Marriage Events
• Minister/Priest: M. Scanlan, 31 Jan 1859, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland.
• Witnesses: Tom Costello & Mary Toohy, 31 Jan 1859, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland. Children: 1. Thomas Whelan 2. Elizabeth Whelan 3. Mary Phelan 4. Margaret Whelan 5. John Whelan 6. Catherine Whelan 7. Ellen Whelan
Notes
General:
270714 Notes from David Stevens' family tree file
From Modreeny Townland when married. Living Ballynavin when son Thomas baptised (1860). Living Modreeny when daughters Elizabeth baptised (1861) Mary (1864), Margaret (1866) and Catherine (1870) and son John (1868).
Sponsor at baptism of Julia PHELAN (daughter of James and Julia) in Cloughjordan 5 June 1864. Sponsor at baptism of James HOUGH (son of Daniel and Betty) in Cloughjordan 25 December 1856.
Witness to: Julia Elizabeth PHELAN #1309 Baptized 5-Jun-1864 Grawn, Cloughjordan, County Tipperary, Ireland
Witness to: Patrick (Pat) HEALY #1295 Baptized 2-Nov-1854 Grawn, Cloughjordan, County Tipperary, Ireland
Witness to: James HOUGH #1312 Baptized 25-Dec-1856 Grawn, Cloughjordan, County Tipperary, Ireland
Eliza Whelan
Sex: FAKA: Elizabeth Hough, Elizabeth Phelan 164,261, Betty Whelan Hough 14,5549,5574,5577
Individual Information
Birth Date: Cir 1832 - Ballynavin, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 8481,8482 Christening: Death: 27 Jul 1903 - Killurane, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland ( about age 71) 14 Burial: After 27 Jul 1903 - Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 8483 Cause of Death: Senile decayEvents
• Alt. Birth: Cir 1826, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland.
• Emigration: And later to Melbourne and Bendigo, Cir 1857, Adelaide, South Australia, Australia.
• Arrival: On board CARACTACUS from Liverpool, 19 Feb 1858, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. (Witness)
• Arrival: On board CARACTACUS from Liverpool, 19 Feb 1858, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. It appears that this record, found by David Stevens on Ancestry.com.au but not available on Ancestry.com evidently, relates to Daniel and Eliza Howe, though the name seems to appear as Hore on the ship's manifest.
• Arrival: Return from Australia, Cir 1863, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland.
• Census: 1901 Census of Ireland - Daniel and Elizabeth, 1901, Knocknacree, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland.
• Residence: 1901, Knocknacree, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland.
Parents
Father: Thomas Phelan 697,698 Mother: Catherine McLoughlin 14,696,697,698
Spouses and Children
1. *Daniel Hough 14,164,261,262 Marriage: 20 Jan 1856 - Grawn, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 5558,5559Marriage Events
• Minister/Priest: P. Slattery, 20 Jan 1856, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland.
• Witnesses: Thos Egan and Hannah Cassidy, 20 Jan 1856, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland. Marriage Notes
110714:Children: 1. James Hough 2. James Howe 3. Tom Hough 4. Bridget Howe 5. Daniel Hough 6. Patrick Hough
I downloaded the marriage record of this couple from the RootsIreland.ie website today (a pay as you go site) in hopes that it would have the full names of their parents. It did not. The possibility exists however that these names are given on the original church record and not transcribed by this website as I have seen such omissions before on data that they sell.
090123:
I was able to download an image and a transcript of the church register today from FMP. It does not give the names of the parents. The transcript gave the date of marriage as 26 January 1856 but a careful look at the image of the register shows this was an error in the transcript and it was in fact January 20, 1856. I reported this to FMP and upon review they agreed with me and corrected the transcript.
Notes
General:
The spelling of Daniel Hough's (Howe) last name is corrupted or spelt differently in different records. This was very common for this surname. In Australia, where many of the descendents now live, they are all known as Howe according to Jamie who has visited several of them. Strangely enough, the Whelans who emigrated to Australia at the same time had their names changed to Phelan! (Source: letter to Jamie from her Auntie Elizabeth dated 11 Sept 1991).
110714:
Daniel's wife's name appears as Eliza Whelan on their marriage record.
Notes from David Stevens:
From Modreeny when married. Immigrated to Australia c1857. Returned to Ireland with family (2 children) in 1863, via Suez Canal (to Cloughjordan in Tipperary). Some records show surname as PHELAN.
Is she the Eliza HOWE who is a sponsor for Thomas Peter PHELAN (son of James and Julia) in Bendigo in 1861.
Sponsor at baptism of Mary PHELAN (daughter of Dan and Jane) Cloughjordan 17 April 1864.
Daughter Brigid QUINLISK of Loughane present when Eliza died.
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070424:
I wrote to David Stevens seeking clarification of the sources for his information concerning the names of Jamies Great Grandmother and 2nd Great Grandmother as well as the location of their burials. This is what he wrote back:
"Hi Christopher
Unfortunately I don't have references for all my data but will try and answer your questions.
Catherine (McLoughlin) Whelan was still alive in 1851 and lived in Modreeny (Griffith's Valuation). I believe she was buried in Modreeny. Mother's maiden name possibly Ely and they lived on Eminiska Townland.
Elizabeth (Whelan) Hough died 27 July 1903 at Knocknachree, Kilruane and is also buried in Modreeny. Husband, died 1912, also buried in Modreeny.
We visited Grawn churchyard and couldn't identify and relevant headstones. Part of the church was still standing.
We tried to contact the C of I minister at Modreeny but received no response.
Hope the above is helpful.
Have you been in touch with Liz Whelan? She has done a lot of research on the Whelan family. She lives in Newbridge, Co. Kildare. Contact lizwhe@hotmail.com Her mother was Mary Hough (1936-2023).
Regards
David"
Obviously, without sources for his information, this all remains pretty speculative. However, it doses seem likely that he obtained this information from Liz Whelan. It turns out she is Pat Hough of Lorrha's niece and if she obtained her information from her uncle it is more than likely correct. So I will write to her for confirmation.
Elizabeth Whelan
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth Date: Bef 26 Jul 1861 - Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 14 Christening: 26 Jul 1861 - Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 14 Death: Burial: Cause of Death:Events
• Sponsors: Thomas COSTELLO and Mary TOOHEY, 26 Jul 1861, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland.
Parents
Father: Daniel Whelan 14 Mother: Jane Tuohy 14
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