Ancestors of Christopher John Augustine Morry

Gertrude Sophia Carr

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Between 1882 and 1883 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ¹⁶⁴⁶ Christening: Death: 19 Feb 1890 - Whitley Bay, Northumberland, England ¹⁶⁴⁶ Burial: 23 Feb 1890 - Whitley Bay, Northumberland, England ²⁹²⁷ Cause of Death: Died with her mother by drowning
Events
• Living: Living with mother's sister Caroline Wheeler Carr, Between 1887 and 1890.
• Residence: No. 24, St. Mary's Terrace, 1890, Whitley Bay, Northumberland, England.

Parents

Father: Mark Wilson Carr ²⁴ Mother: Sophia Wheeler ²⁴ ^,168 ^,437

Notes
General:

240308: In message on Genes Reunited from Peggy Krause Hansen: "have Gertrude Sophia Carr born 1882/83 to Mark Wilson and Sophia Wheeler Carr. She died 20 Feb 1890 along with her mother Sophia. I have a newspaper account of that event which describes that they were both drowned in Whitley Bay. They had been living with Caroline Wheeler Carrand her family after the death at sea of Mark Wilson on 11 Nov 1887. There was an inquest into the death but the cause was ruled as accidental death with no known cause although Sophia had been despondent for some time after the death of her husband." Also this: "CHILDREN OF MARK WILSON CARR AND SOPHIA WHEELER CARR:

i.GERTRUDE SOPHIA CARR"

She was their only child. How ironic that mother, father and child should all die of drowning. DATE 1890 PLAC Whitley Bay, Tyne and Wear, England

191214:

Note that burial date was apparently delayed due to inquest.

Henry Septimus Carr

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1833 - Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England ¹⁶⁴⁶ Christening: Death: 24 Feb 1901 - Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England ( about age 68) ¹⁶⁴⁶ Burial: 27 Feb 1901 - Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England ¹⁶⁴⁶ Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: John Thomas Carr ¹⁶⁴⁶ Mother: Sophia Balleny ¹⁶⁴⁶ ^,1647

Spouses and Children

1. Dora Elizabeth Wetherall ¹⁸⁴ Marriage: Basford, Nottinghamshire, England ¹⁸⁴ Children: 1. Dorothy Carr 2. Mary Carr 2. *Mary Cowen ¹⁸⁴ Marriage: 5 Sep 1855 - Winlaton, Durham, England

Notes
General:

From Peggy Krause Hansen 310308: "Henry Septimus Carr was actually the son of John Thomas the elder and Sophia Balleny. He was born circa 1833 (I don't have a birth registration for him) and died 24 Feb 1901 in Newcastle. I have more data on him if you are interested."

161108: From Lewis Carr: More about Henry Septimus Carr: 1877: Mentioned in mother Sophia's will. 1881 census: Living at Whitehill Villa, Chester Le Street, Durham with wife Mary and 2 servants: John Johnstone and George Gray. Occupation: Income from dividends. 1891 census: Living at 2 High Swinburne Pl, Newcastle upon Tyne with wife Mary and 2 servants: Hannah Atkinson and Mary O'Hara. 27 Feb 1901: Buried at Elswick Cemetery. Service at St. Matthews. Those attending the funeral were: J.T.T, Carr (nephew of the deceased), Mrs. J.T.T. Carr, Mr. D.C. Carr (nephew of the deceased), Miss S.M. Carr ( grand-niece), Mr. J. T. Carr ( grand nephew), Councillor Ralph Carr, Mr. R. Strother, Mr. Peter Small, Mr. John Hickey, Dr. V.H. Rutherford, Mr. A.M. Ellis, (Headmaster, Rutherford College), Mr. John Cochrane, Mr. T. Blenkinsop, Mr. Blenkinsop, Mr. Pattison (representing Messrs. Monhouse, Godddard and Co.)

Isabella Carr

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1828 ¹⁸⁴ Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: John Thomas Carr ¹⁶⁴⁶ Mother: Sophia Balleny ¹⁶⁴⁶ ^,1647

Isabella Maud Carr

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 18 Dec 1878 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁴ ^,1646 Christening: 24 Dec 1878 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁴ ^,1646 Death: Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Baptism: 23 Feb 1879, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Parents

Father: John Thomas Tertius Carr ²⁴ ^,1646 Mother: Caroline Wheeler ²⁴ ^,168

Notes
General:

14/12/02: This relationship to Evelyn Morry's line of Wheelers is speculative for the moment, based solely on the fact that the father's Christian and surnames (John Thomas Carr) and the mother's Christian name (Caroline) appear in Evelyn Morry's father's name and sister's Christian name, plus the coincidence of the location of the Baptism. This needs to be substantiated with better facts.

The fact that there were two records of baptism by two different Ministers several months apart seems to indicate that she may have died asan infant and received the second baptism at the time of death but this needs to be proven with better documentation.

210308: Peggy Krause Hansen's family tree on Genes Reunited does not show thesecond record of baptism, so that matter cannot be sorted out. But her family relationships are comprehensive and show beyond a doubt thatCaroline and Sophie were sisters and married two Carr borthers, John Thomas Tertius Carr and Mark Wilson Carr, respectively. "I then have Isabella Maud born 18 Dec 1888 and christened 24 Dec 1888. I was not aware of a Feb. 1889 christening for her."

Living

Sex: M

Parents

Father: Robert Adolph Carr ¹⁸⁴ Mother: Letha Hannah Denton ¹⁸⁴

Spouses and Children

1. Living

James Theodor Carr

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: 16 Jan 1897 - Strasbourg, Saskatchewan, Canada ¹⁸⁴ Christening: Death: Cir 1907 - Strasbourg, Saskatchewan, Canada ( about age 10) ¹⁸⁴ Burial: Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: Lisle Carr ¹⁸⁴ Mother: Augusta Franziska Heck ²⁹²⁴ Marriage Did Not Marry

John Phillip Carr

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: 18 Nov 1898 - Strasbourg, Saskatchewan, Canada ¹⁸⁴ Christening: 26 Nov 1899 - Strasbourg, Saskatchewan, Canada ¹⁸⁴ Death: Sep 1968 - Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, Canada ( at age 69) ¹⁸⁴ Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Occupation: store-keeper and insurance salesman.
• Military: Second WW, Between 1939 and 1945.

Parents

Father: Lisle Carr ¹⁸⁴ Mother: Augusta Franziska Heck ²⁹²⁴

Spouses and Children

1. *Pearl Etta Dolson ¹⁸⁴ Marriage: Cir 1923 - Saskatchewan, Canada ¹⁸⁴
Marriage Events
• Alt. Marriage: Cir 1926, Saskatchewan, Canada. Children: 1. Living

Notes
General:

More about John Phillip Carr Christened 26 Nov 1899 St. Johns Lutheran Church Was always known as "Johnny" Was divorced shortly after his daughter was born. Ran a store with brother Harry for a few years, then sold insurance in Regina for a few more years. Served in the 2nd world war. Worked in army bases in St. Hubert, Quebec for approx. ten years after the war. Then moved to Ft. Saskatchewan, Alberta and worked in an implement shop there until his death in 1969 at the age of 71.

John Thomas Carr

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 3 Nov 1819 - North Shields, Durham, England ¹⁶⁴⁶ Christening: 3 Nov 1819 - Tynemouth, Northumberland, England ²⁹²⁸ Death: 4 Jan 1860 - Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England ¹⁶⁴⁶ Burial: Cause of Death: Aortic aneurysm
Events
• Occupation: Merchant, timber, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England.
• Occupation: Timber Merchant, Stella House, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England.
• Baptism: 3 Nov 1819, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England.
• Census: Living at 1 ”Bootine Pl.” with wife Agnes, age 30 and 1 servant, 1851, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England.
• Occupation: Agent, fire and timber, 1851, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England.

Parents

Father: John Thomas Carr ¹⁶⁴⁶ Mother: Matilda Green ¹⁶⁴⁶

Spouses and Children

1. *Agnes Cargill ¹⁶⁴⁶ Marriage: 5 Feb 1851 - Arbroath, Angus, Scotland ¹⁶⁴⁶ Children: 1. Matilda Sophia Carr 2. John Thomas Tertius Carr 3. David Clement Carr 4. Thomas William Carr 5. Mark Wilson Carr 6. Agnes Elizabeth Carr

Notes
General:

30/03/03:

I am not entirely certain that Mark and John are brothers but the fact that they both came from the Newcastle area and married sisters seems to indicate this to be the case.

240308: From information provided by Peggy Krause Hansen it is now abundantly clear that the two Carr brothers married the two Wheeler girls and that they were indeed Daddy Jack's aunts:

"1.JOHN THOMAS CARR (John Thomas/Matilda Green) born 1819. He married Agnes CARGILL 5 Feb 1851 at Arbroath, Scotland (OPR Marriage Index, www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk <http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/>). He died 4 Jan 1860 of an aortic aneurysm at 3 Hawthorne Terrace, Newcastle upon Tyne (death certificate). MORE ABOUT JOHN THOMAS CARR: Christened 3 Nov 1819, Christ Church, Tynmouth (IGI C155984). 1851 census H.O. 107/2402/18/588: Living at 1 ?"Bootine Pl.", Newcastle upon Tyne with wife Agnes, age 30 and 1 servant. Occupation: Agent, fire and timber. Age: 31." DATE 04 JAN 1860 PLAC Newcastle Upon Tyne, Tyne and Wear, England

John Thomas Carr

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: 13 Apr 1885 - Whitley Bay, Northumberland, England ¹⁶⁴⁶ Christening: Death: 2 Apr 1967 - Gateshead, Tyne And Wear, England ( at age 81) ²⁹²³ Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Occupation: Analytical Chemist.
• Alt. Birth: Cir 1886.
• Census: Living with his mother, sisters and an uncle, David Clement Carr, 1891, Whitley Bay, Northumberland, England.
• Residence: Lady Park, Ravensworth, 1959, Gateshead, Tyne And Wear, England.

Parents

Father: John Thomas Tertius Carr ²⁴ ^,1646 Mother: Caroline Wheeler ²⁴ ^,168

Spouses and Children

1. *Ada Mary Grey ²⁹²³ Marriage: Cir 1913 - Gateshead, Tyne And Wear, England ²⁹²³ Children: 1. Agnes Maud Carr

Notes
General:

240308: In a message on Genes Reunited from Peggy Krause Hansen: "I have a son, John Thomas, born 13 Apr 1885 at Whitley, NBL. I also have him in the 1891 census for Whitley Bay, NBL as mentioned above."

111111: Peggy Hansen sent this additional information today:

I have recently come into contact with a descendent of John Thomas Tertius Carr and Caroline Wheeler Carr. This lady is a grand-daughter of John Thomas Carr born to John T. T. and Caroline 13 Apr 1885 in Whitley, NB. He married Ada Mary Grey, daughter of Thomas Grey of Gateshead in 1913. She was born 1882 in Gateshead. They had a daughter, Agnes Maud, born 1 Nov 1916. Agnes Maud married Francis Henry Lamming, born 3 Jul 1914 in Grimsby, Lincolnshire, 5 Nov 1946. He was a sea captain and they lived with John Thomas and Ada Mary at Lady Park, Ravensworth, Gateshead until 1959. If you "google" that you will see a picture of the large estate they lived on. Francis (Frank) and Agnes Maud had twin daughters born 15 Dec 1949 in Gateshead. I have been corresponding with Jennifer Mary who married James Thornell 20 Oct 1973 Harrogate, Yorkshire. She has met someone connected with the Wheeler family (a descendent of Caroline's brother, I believe) and has visited her and her husband in Canada. This was in 1988 or 1989 I think. Anyhow, Jennifer Mary and James Thornell have two daughters: Samantha Louise born 10 Jan 1975 and Stephanie Mary born 9 Feb 1978. Samantha is married to David Tempest and they have two daughters, Olivia May b. 1 May 2000 and Amelia Rose, b. 28 Nov 2003 in Oxford, England. Stephanie married Gordon McGuire in Manly, New South Wales. They have twins, Lachlan Alastair and Lucy Elizabeth born 7 Sep 2011.

Jennifer does not know a lot of whatever became of Isabella Maud and Elspeth, John Thomas's sisters, except that neither of them married. I would assume Sophy Maud born in 1877 died in infancy.

John Thomas died 2 Apr 1967 at Lady Park. Ada Mary died about 1953 at Lady Park. His occupation was as an "analytical chemist". Agnes Maud died 13 Jun 1978 at Gateshead and Francis Lamming died 17 Nov 1977 at Gateshead.

Ina na email to Peggy on 06112011 Jennifer passed on this information:

" was a Freeman of Newcastle. Something that had passed down through the male members of the Carr family."

John Thomas Carr

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: 12 May 1794 - Felton, Northumberland, England ¹⁶⁴⁶ ^,1647 Christening: 18 May 1794 - Longframlington, Northumberland, England ¹⁸⁴ ^,1646 ^,1647 Death: 13 Feb 1855 - Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England ( at age 60) ¹⁶⁴⁶ ^,1647 Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Occupation: Merchant, Russian vice consul, Master of Trinity House, Wallasey, Metropolitan Borough of Wirral, Merseyside, England.

Spouses and Children

1. Matilda Green ¹⁶⁴⁶ Marriage: 24 Jul 1815 - Tynemouth, Northumberland, England ¹⁸⁴ ^,1647 Marriage Notes

Marriage took place at Christ Church in Tynemouth.
Children: 1. Thomas William Carr 2. Sarah Ann Carr 3. John Thomas Carr 4. Matilda Green Carr 5. Mark William Carr 6. Roseann Carr 2. *Sophia Balleny ¹⁶⁴⁶ ^,1647 Marriage: 9 Aug 1827 - Lanchester, Durham, England ¹⁶⁴⁶ ^,1647 Marriage Notes

150114:

The data on this family are well supported by primary sources and it therefore appears to be true that their first child, Balleny Carr, was born before they married.
Children: 1. Balleny Carr 2. Isabella Carr 3. Henry Septimus Carr 4. Richard Storer Carr 5. William Carr

Notes
General:

210308: According to Peggy Krause Hansen's Gene's Reunited family tree, this John Thomas Carr married twice, He had Thomas Carr (1816), Sarah carr (1818), John Thomas Carr (1819), Matilda carr (ca 1821) and Roseann Carr (ca 1824) by his first wife, matilda Green. After she died about 1825-27, he remarried Sophia Balleny and had another family with her consisting of four sons: Balleny Carr (ca 1827), Henry Carr (1833). Richard carr (1835) and William Carr (1836). I have only entered the information on son John Thomas Carr, by his first marriage, because it is through that line that there is an attachment to the Wheelers.

121108: From Lewis Carr's family tree: More about JOHN THOMAS CARR: He was born near Felton, Northumberland (1851 census). Parents possibly were Ann DOBINSON and Thomas CARR. 1828-1829; Carr and Company, fire, life and ship insurance officers and agents, North and South Shields. (Pigot and Co. Directory) 1828; Master of Trinity House ( Capt. Stephen Healey, Historian Trinity House) 1838-39:Russian Vice Consul, 25 Broad Chare. Residence, Hanover Sq. (Richardson's Directory of Newcastle, Pg 220) 1841; Sheriff of Newcastle (Historical Documents Online) 1849-1850; Master of Trinity House, Russian Vice Consul (Capt Stephen Healey) 1851: Census Folio 443. Living at Stella Durham with Sophia, Balleny Carr, Matilda Green Carr and 1 servant, Isabella Carr. Occupation: Timber Merchant 1855; Russia Vice Consul 25 Broad Chare, Carr and Co. Saw mill office 25 Broad Chare, Ship and Insurance Brokers 25 Broad Chare. ( Slaters Commercial Directory) 1855-56; Wine and Spirit merchant (Carr and Co.) Res. Stella House ( Whellan's Directories) Circa 1855:Reference to being instrumental in the building of the Russian railway system under Czar Nicholas 1. Said to have received some jewels from the Czar for his involvement( genlistlass@hotmail.com) In her will, dated 21 Mar 1919, Ann RICHARDSON CARR mentions a gold locket, set with emeralds and diamonds, presented to John Thomas Carr by the Emperor of Russia, Nicholas the First, which had been left to her.(Copy of will in the possession of a grand-daughter of Lisle Carr.) 1855-1861; John Thomas died sometime in this time frame. His wife Sophia was listed as a widow in the 1861 census. I have been unable to find a record of his death. I have contacted Capt. Stephen Healey who assures me he would have a record of it but so far he has not contacted me with the information.

150114 From James Carr and Woodhall Descendants family tree on Ancestry.com:

TIMELINE JOHN THOMAS CARR
1816-1824 Master Mariner living in Tynmouth (Christening Registrations-Tynmouth Christ Church
Register)
9 Feb 1822 Became Merchant Adventurer by Patrimony (Carr Family History)
1828-1829 Carr and Company, fire, life and ship insurance officers and agents North and South Shields
(Pigot and Co. Directory)
1828 Master of Trinity House (Capt. Stephen Healey, Historian Trinity House)
1838-1839 Russian vice Consul (Richardson's Directory, Pg. 220)
1841 Sheriff of Newcastle (Documents Online)
1849-1850 Master of Trinity House, Russian Vice Consul (Capt. Stephen Healey, Historian Trinity House)
1851 Census HO 107/2403/443 Living at Stella House, Stella, Durham with wife Sophia, daughter Mtilda
Green Carr, son Balleny Carr and 1 servant Isabella Carr. Occupation: Timber Merchant.
1855 Russia Vice Consul, 25 Broad Chare; Carr and Co. Saw Mill Office, 25 Broad Chare; Ship and
Insurance Brokers, 25 Broad Chare. (Slater's Commercial Directory)
1855-1856 Wine and Spirit Merchant - Carr and co. (Whellan's Directory)
13 Feb 1855 John Thomas Carr dies. (Obituary, Newcastle Courant)
Circa 1845 Reference to being instrumental in the building of the Russian railway system under Czar
Nicholas 1. He was said to have received some jewels from the Czar for his involvement ("Historical
Register of Remarkable Events which Occurred in Northumberland"). In her will, dated 21 Mar 1919, Ann
Richardson Carr mentions a gold locket set with emeralds and diamonds presented to John Thomas Carr by the Czar of Russia which had been left to her by her husband Richard Storer Carr.

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