Ancestors of Christopher John Augustine Morry

Eliza Howe Carter

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 8 Sep 1792 - Dartmouth, Devon, England ³³ Christening: 8 Sep 1792 - Dartmouth, Devon, England ²⁶³² Death: 28 Dec 1858 - Exeter, Devon, England ¹⁴¹ ^,144 ^,983 ^,2381 ^,3031 ^,3032 Burial: 3 Jan 1859 - Exeter, Devon, England ⁹⁹⁶ Cause of Death:
Events
• Residence: 1 St. Leonard Place, After 1830, Exeter, Devon, England. (Occupant)
• Residence: 1 St. Leonard Place, After 1830, Exeter, Devon, England.
• Census: Household of Eliza Howe Woolcombe, St. Leonard Place, Mt. Radford, 1841, Exeter, Devon, England. Household included a male and female servant, herself, her mother and a nephew and niece (James and Elizabeth Carter).
• Property: SDC Vol 2 No 726 Folio 355-358 Grant to Elizabeth Carter Eliza Woolcombe Robert Carter James Howe Carter 19-06-1848, 9 Jun 1848, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. This is one of four Grants issued at almost exactly the same time which have the appearance of being more a legalisation of the claims of these heirs to property held by their father, Robert Carter, which in turn had inherited from Judge William Carter at the time of his death.
• Property: SDC Vol 2 No 727 Folio 367-370 Grant to Elizabeth Carter Eliza Woolcombe Robert Carter James Howe Carter 19-06-1848, 19 Jun 1848, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. This is one of four Grants issued at almost exactly the same time which have the appearance of being more a legalisation of the claims of these heirs to property held by their father, Robert Carter, which in turn had inherited from Judge William Carter at the time of his death.
• Property: SDC Vol 2 No 728 Folio 363-366 Grant to Elizabeth Carter Eliza Woolcombe Robert Carter James Howe Carter 19-06-1848, 19 Jun 1848, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. This is one of four Grants issued at almost exactly the same time which have the appearance of being more a legalisation of the claims of these heirs to property held by their father, Robert Carter, which in turn had inherited from Judge William Carter at the time of his death.
• Property: SDC Vol 2 No 729 Folio 359-362 Grant to Elizabeth Carter Eliza Woolcombe Robert Carter James Howe Carter 19-06-1848, 19 Jun 1848, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. This is one of four Grants issued at almost exactly the same time which have the appearance of being more a legalisation of the claims of these heirs to property held by their father, Robert Carter, which in turn had inherited from Judge William Carter at the time of his death.
• Census: Household of Eliza Howe [Carter] Woolcombe, 1 St. Leonard Place, Mt. Radford, 1851, Exeter, Devon, England. Includes herself (57) her mother, Elizabeth Howe Carter (82), and her niece Elizabeth Carter (17) and two servants.
• Property: Conveyance of parcel of land to Patrick Dullanty (Delahunty), 20 Jun 1857, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. SDC Vol 4 Fol 135-136 James Howe Carter Sarah Carter Eliza Howe Woolcombe to Patrick Dullanty 20-06-1857.
• Will: 23 Dec 1857, Exeter, Devon, England.
• Minister/Priest: Henry Woolcombe, Vicar, Heavitree Anglican Church, 3 Jan 1858, Exeter, Devon, England.
• Alt. Death: Between Oct and Dec 1858, Exeter, Devon, England.

Parents

Father: Robert Carter JP ¹⁰ ^,109 ^,168 Mother: Elizabeth Harris Howe ¹⁰ ^,109 ^,292

Spouses and Children

1. George Bulley ¹⁴² Marriage: 28 Sep 1815 - Exeter, Devon, England ²⁶³²
Marriage Events
• Minister/Priest: William Hutchinson, Curate, Heavitree Angican Parish, 28 Sep 1815, Exeter, Devon, England.
• Witnesses: Robert Carter and J. W. Goss, 28 Sep 1815, Exeter, Devon, England. Marriage Notes

240212 from Rootsweb Devon site:

Child of BULLEY is: 29 i.George BULLEY was born Abt 1790, and died 1820. He married Elizabeth Howe CARTER 28 Sep 1815 in Exeter,Devon,England, daughter of Robert CARTER and Elizabeth Harris HOWE. She was christened 8 Sep 1792, died Dec 1858 in Exeter,Devon,England.

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090418 from FindMyPast:
Devon Marriages Transcription

First name(s)Eliza Howe
Last nameCarter
Marriage year1815
Marriage date28 Sep 1815
Spouse's first name(s)George
Spouse's last nameBulley
DenominationAnglican
ParishHeavitree
PlaceHeavitree
CountyDevon
ArchiveSouth West Heritage Trust
Record setDevon Marriages
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryParish Marriages
Collections fromEngland, United Kingdom
Devon Family History Society

Transcriptions © Devon Family History Society

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300121:
I received a message on Ancestry from a person whose user name is caroanne1950. Her proper name is Carol Roane. This is what she said:

Re Morrys of Newfoundland family tree
I hope you dont mind me contacting you but I think you have the wrong wife for George Butler Bulley birth 15 Nov. 1794 West Teignmouth Devon Baptised 7 Feb. 1794 West Teignmouth He married Ann Northam 7 Jan. 1828 West Teignmouth Devon England George Bulley of this parish Sail Maker and Ann Northam of this parish by Licence both of age witnesses John Bulley and M. Cousins George signed his name Ann made her mark.
best wishes Carol Roane
09:23 a.m.

I responded:

Dear Carol Roane:
I would not be much of a genealogist if I was not delighted to hear from someone who has information that may correct an error in my family tree! So I thank you for taking the time to make contact and I hope that the two of us can sort out this conflict together. I find it awkward to work through Ancestry (or any other service for that matter) as opposed to one-on-one contact. I wonder would you be willing to connect with me via email at cjmorry@ncf.ca. I have a marriage record for my 1st cousin, 5 times removed, Eliza Howe Carter, to a George Bulley and it is very likely I chose the wrong man of this name since I did not research him very thoroughly. If you can provide alternative information on a marriage of George Butler Bulley that conflicts with the marriage I have for the man simply known as George Bulley I will be better able to make any needed corrections. As it happens, on the marriage record I have there are no others of the name Bulley as witnesses and hence I may have erred in choosing George Butler Bulley as the likely candidate. I look forward to hearing more from you. Thanks once again. Christopher Morry
Read, 02:47 p.m.

She then sent me an email as follows:

cazannie@ Yahoo <cazannie@yahoo.co.uk>

Eliza Howe Carter and George Bulley

cjmorry@ncf.ca

Hi again
I have had a search for Eliza's husband George but I am not finding anything about him.
I see she married again in 1820 so they were not married very long, I have looked for a death too but found nothing Sorry I can't be of help If I come across him in my searches I will let you know I am compiling a dedicated Bulley family tree and they are popping up all over the place so he might just turn up Best wishes Carol Roane

Sent from my iPad

I replied:

Hello Carol Roane:

Well now I guess you know what I grasped at straws and assumed that the only available George had to be the guy. There just don't seem to be any logical alternatives.

My guess is that even though he shows up in the register as "of this parish" in reality he was a sojourner, probably a mariner, and possibly even from Newfoundland, where the name is not uncommon, though often seen as Bully there.

Anyway, I will keep hunting but in the meantime disconnect Eliza from your man at least offline and eventually online when next I do updates.

Please keep me in mind if anything turns up on the real George.

Cheers

Christopher

C. J. Morry
cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca>

So the end result is that I must now remove George Butler Bulley as the husband of Eliza and leave him only as an unknown man named George Bulley for now.

2. *Capt. John Charles Woollcombe RN ¹⁰ ^,141 ^,142 Marriage: 5 Jan 1820 - Exeter, Devon, England ²⁶³² ^,3033
Marriage Events
• Minister/Priest: Rev. William Woollcombe, father of the groom, 5 Jan 1820, Exeter, Devon, England.
• Witnesses: Anna Maria Brand and Sarah Ball, 5 Jan 1820, Exeter, Devon, England. Marriage Notes

300121 from FindMyPast

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England Marriages 1538-1973
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First name(s)Eliza Howe
Last nameBulley
Name note-
Marriage year1820
Marriage date05 Jan 1820
Marriage placeHeavitree
Spouse's first name(s)John Charles
Spouse's last nameWoollcombe
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CountyDevon
CountryEngland
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SubcategoryParish Marriages
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Devon Marriages And Banns

Record setDevon Marriages And Banns
First name(s)Eliza Howe
Last nameBulley
Marriage year1820
Spouse's first name(s)John Charles
Spouse's last nameWoollcombe
DenominationAnglican
CountyDevon
CountryEngland
PlaceHeavitree
ArchiveSouth West Heritage Trust
Marriage date05 Jan 1820
ParishHeavitree
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryParish Marriages
Collections fromEngland, Great Britain
Devon Family History Society

Transcriptions © Devon Family History Society
Children: 1. William Walker Woollcombe

Notes
General:

240212 from NGB website:

Will of Eliza Howe Woolcombe from Newfoundland will books volume 2 page 399 probate year 1860 In re Eliza Howe Woolcombe deceased. This is the last will and testament of me Eliza Howe Woolcombe widow of Captain John Charles Woolcombe R.N. made published and declared this 23^rd day of Decr 1857 In the first place I direct all my just debts and funeral expences to be paid and as to all the rest residue and remainder of my personal estate goods chattels and effects of whatever nature and kind soever and wheresoever I give and bequeath unto my son William Walker Woollcombe his executors administrators and assigns to be absolutely at his disposal And I hereby nominate constitute and appoint him whole and sole executor of this my will. In witness whereof I have hereunto set and subscribed my hand and seal the day and year aforesaid- Eliza Howe Woollcombe (Seal)- Signed sealed published and declared by the said testator Eliza Howe Woollcombe in the presence of us- Emma Maria Sparshatt 1 Lower Southernhay Exeter- Elizabeth Carter 1 Lower Southernhay Exeter. Certified correct, D. M. Browning Registrar

240212: George LeMessurier's Carter family tree seems to imply there was a second son in this marriage but Eliza Howe [Carter] Wooldcombe's will makes no mention of him. I suspect that this was an error in the family tree or my interpretation of it. I am removing him from here today.

080615:
On the 1851 Census she was the head of the household as a widow and her household consisted of her aged mother and a niece, Elizabeth Carter and two servants. She claimed to be 57 but was in fact 66 at the time. Woman, thy name is vanity!

130615:

According to the BMD database compiled by Gert Crosbie and placed on CD by MHA, her death notice appeared in these newspapers in Newfoundland:
1) Gazette (Royal Newfoundland Gazette) 1807-
2) Courier (Morning Courier & General Advertiser, Morning Courier) 1844-1878
3) Times and General Commercial Gazette 1832-1895
4) Public Ledger 1820-1882 (issues available begin 1827)
5) Express (Newfoundland Express) 1851-1876

The text (most likely abbreviated by Gert) read:
Deceased was the widow of the late Capt. J.C. Woolcombe, R.N., and only sister of both James H. Carter and the late Robert Carter, Ferryland.

180616:
ON 6 Jan. 1965, Nimshi Crewe (in MG281 file at The Rooms) transcribes the account in The Times as follows:

"Died. At Exeter, Devon, on the 28th December last, Eliza Howe, widow of Captain J. C. Woolcombe, R.N., only sister of James H. and the late Robert Carter, Esq's of Ferryland, Newfoundland.

040916:
There are a series of grants given to Elizabeth Howe Carter and her three adult children, Eliza Woolcombe, Robert Carter Jr. and James Carter, in 1848 which seem to relate more to a consolidation of properties previously claimed by her husband, the late Robert Carter Senior, but never properly conveyed, rather than actual new grants. In other words, these would most likely have been thought of as Carter lands from long before but were being made "legal" at this point after the death of Robert Carter Senior to prevent others from squatting and claiming the land as theirs. There are copies of some of these grants in the Media Gallery.

170319:
Though there is no specific mention of her share of property in Ferryland in her will, there is a document in the ROD Southern District Court records conveying this property to her nephew, Sheriff James Howe Carter for a nominal sum (£29). The matter is being handled on her estate's behalf by William Rendeall, acting as her executor, in Newfoundland at least. There is no mention of her son and sole heir in this document, which is strange, because he survived until 1902, and presumably would have been the beneficiary of the funds realised from this conveyance.

William Rendell was married to Eliza's niece, Fanny Rendell Carter, and the documents were attested to by Frederick B. T. Carter, so it was all pretty much a family affair.

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300121:
I received a message on Ancestry from a person whose user name is caroanne1950. Her proper name is Carol Roane. This is what she said:

Re Morrys of Newfoundland family tree
I hope you dont mind me contacting you but I think you have the wrong wife for George Butler Bulley birth 15 Nov. 1794 West Teignmouth Devon Baptised 7 Feb. 1794 West Teignmouth He married Ann Northam 7 Jan. 1828 West Teignmouth Devon England George Bulley of this parish Sail Maker and Ann Northam of this parish by Licence both of age witnesses John Bulley and M. Cousins George signed his name Ann made her mark.
best wishes Carol Roane
09:23 a.m.

I responded:

Dear Carol Roane:
I would not be much of a genealogist if I was not delighted to hear from someone who has information that may correct an error in my family tree! So I thank you for taking the time to make contact and I hope that the two of us can sort out this conflict together. I find it awkward to work through Ancestry (or any other service for that matter) as opposed to one-on-one contact. I wonder would you be willing to connect with me via email at cjmorry@ncf.ca. I have a marriage record for my 1st cousin, 5 times removed, Eliza Howe Carter, to a George Bulley and it is very likely I chose the wrong man of this name since I did not research him very thoroughly. If you can provide alternative information on a marriage of George Butler Bulley that conflicts with the marriage I have for the man simply known as George Bulley I will be better able to make any needed corrections. As it happens, on the marriage record I have there are no others of the name Bulley as witnesses and hence I may have erred in choosing George Butler Bulley as the likely candidate. I look forward to hearing more from you. Thanks once again. Christopher Morry
Read, 02:47 p.m.

She then sent me an email as follows:

cazannie@ Yahoo <cazannie@yahoo.co.uk>

Eliza Howe Carter and George Bulley

cjmorry@ncf.ca

Hi again
I have had a search for Eliza's husband George but I am not finding anything about him.
I see she married again in 1820 so they were not married very long, I have looked for a death too but found nothing Sorry I can't be of help If I come across him in my searches I will let you know I am compiling a dedicated Bulley family tree and they are popping up all over the place so he might just turn up Best wishes Carol Roane

Sent from my iPad

I replied:

Hello Carol Roane:

Well now I guess you know what I grasped at straws and assumed that the only available George had to be the guy. There just don't seem to be any logical alternatives.

My guess is that even though he shows up in the register as "of this parish" in reality he was a sojourner, probably a mariner, and possibly even from Newfoundland, where the name is not uncommon, though often seen as Bully there.

Anyway, I will keep hunting but in the meantime disconnect Eliza from your man at least offline and eventually online when next I do updates.

Please keep me in mind if anything turns up on the real George.

Cheers

Christopher

C. J. Morry
cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca>

So the end result is that I must now remove George Butler Bulley as the husband of Eliza and leave him only as an unknown man named George Bulley for now.
!BIRTH:FHL CO 50781-2964 P.6,338;

!Prior Marriage: with Capt. George Bulley,
28 Sep 1815 at Heavitree, Exeter,Devon. No
issue.

!MARRIAGE: FHL/SDS.Batch MO 51061 1945 P.41#478

!DEATH:Newspaper,St. John's,Nfld, Feb.1859 G;
Eliza Howe Carter, who married Lt. Woolcomb,England,
died in Exeter last December,age 66 years;

Eliza Howe Carter

Sex: F
AKA: Elizabeth Howe Carter ⁷²⁸, Eliza Howe Hoyles
Individual Information

Birth Date: 8 Mar 1816 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁷⁸ ^,728 ^,3034 Christening: 27 Sep 1818 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁷⁸ ^,728 Death: After 17 Mar 1879 - Carbonear, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³⁰³⁵ Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Minister/Priest: Thomas A. Grantham, M.A., 27 Sep 1818, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Residence: According to letter from her mother, Sarah Rendell Carter to her niece, Ada Rendell Durant, 20 Jul 1874, Carbonear, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. The letter was transcribed by Jean Carter Stirling and a copy of that transcription was given to me by Jean in 2014.
• Alt. Death: After Feb 1879, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Documentation: Letter to Ada Rendell from her first cousin Eliza (Carter) Hoyles whose parents were Robert and Sarah (Rendell) CARTER, 17 Mar 1879, Carbonear, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Parents

Father: Robert Carter JP ⁵ ^,10 ^,33 Mother: Sarah Rendell ⁵ ^,10 ^,33

Spouses and Children

1. *Rev. William John Hoyles ¹⁰ ^,141 ^,142 ^,983 ^,2564 ^,2568 ^,2569 Marriage: 4 Dec 1849 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ¹⁸⁶⁵ ^,3034 ^,3036 ^,3037
Marriage Events
• Minister/Priest: Rev. Thomas Bridge, Rector, 4 Dec 1849, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. p. 227, #22, - HOYLES
1849, 4 Dec.William John Hoyles, stipendiary of the Society for the Propogation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts, (SPG) at Brigus in Conception Bay, widower, and Eliza Howe Carter of Ferryland, spinster, were married in the St. John's Central Schoolroom, this 4^th day of December by me, Thomas Bridge, Rector. Witnesses: Robert Carter, Thomas Row, William Rendell Jr., Mary L. Carter, George W. Johnson, L. Dickson, Jean Hoyles.

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• Witnesses: More complete list transcribed by Jean Carter Stirling, 4 Dec 1849, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. p. 227, #22, - HOYLES
1849, 4 Dec.William John Hoyles, stipendiary of the Society for the Propogation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts, (SPG) at Brigus in Conception Bay, widower, and Eliza Howe Carter of Ferryland, spinster, were married in the St. John's Central Schoolroom, this 4^th day of December by me, Thomas Bridge, Rector. Witnesses: Robert Carter, Thomas Row, William Rendell Jr., Mary L. Carter, George W. Johnson, L. Dickson, Jean Hoyles.

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• Witnesses: Robert Carter, William J. Randell, 4 Dec 1849, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Alt. Marriage: 8 Dec 1849, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Jean's information differs in date and location from mine and I am not sure which is correct. The date I have comes from two sources but the location is not given. Marriage Notes

240212 from NGB website: 4-Dec 1849 William John HOYLES, widower, clergyman, Brigus Eliza Howe CARTER, spin, Ferryland. [eldest daughter of Robert Carter, J.P., Ferryland.] Robert Carter, William J. Randell STJB

150113:

Kevin Reddigan's version:

4-Dec 1849 William John HOYLES, widower, clergyman, Brigus Eliza Howe CARTER, spin, Ferryland. [eldest daughter of Robert Carter, J.P., Ferryland.] Robert Carter, William J. Randell STJB

090621:

Jean Carter Stirling version:

p. 227, #22, - HOYLES
1849, 4 Dec.William John Hoyles, stipendiary of the Society for the Propogation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts, (SPG) at Brigus in Conception Bay, widower, and Eliza Howe Carter of Ferryland, spinster, were married in the St. John's Central Schoolroom, this 4^th day of December by me, Thomas Bridge, Rector. Witnesses: Robert Carter, Thomas Row, William Rendell Jr., Mary L. Carter, George W. Johnson, L. Dickson, Jean Hoyles.

Note that the marriage did not take place in the Cathedral but rather in the St. John's Central Schoolroom because the Cathedral had been damaged by fire at this time.

Notes
General:

111109 from NGB: Eliza Howe CARTER Robert & Sarah b Mar 8 1816 bap Sep 27 1818 Formerly of Dartmouth, County of Devon, England, now of Ferryland.

She was a spinster at the time of marriage so clearly other records of marriages of Eliza Howe Carter pertain to someone else, her aunt I believe.

070615:
Here is a letter transcribed by Jean Carter Stirling from Eliza Howe [Carter] Hoyles to her cousin Ada Augusta Dawson [Rendell] Durrant informing her of the recent death of Eliza's mother:

Robert and Sarah (Rendell) CARTER
Carbonear,Mar.17,1879
My dear Ada.
Your kind letter to your Aunt came too late for her to read as you will have learnt ere this reaches you, from your cousin George. My dear Mother passed away quietly and peacefully without any suffering and sensible to the last at so great an age -- eighty seven. The last of her family, only Aunt Rendell remains and she is very feeble now. No one can tell how much I miss my dear Mother. I am getting old myself, being two years older now than dear Mamma was when Papa died. She ever took a great interest in you and grieved so much as we all did when we heard that you had found the Mormons, but surely Ada, this cannot be true. I cannot fancy that the little child I loved so dearly has so forgotten her Bible and the early instructions she received. You were a little, very little older than your little cousins when your poor Mother died and I took charge of you. It is not likely we shall meet again on earth. Oh seek your Saviour, Ada, ere it is too late. You may perhaps have done so and are now at peace with God through Jesus Christ our Lord. But if you hold the doctrine of the Mormonites which is contrary to scripture this cannot be. See to it dear Ada before it be too late. It is a solemn thing to die.

I cannot give you much information about your old friends, I am not often in St. John's now. Wm. Kell (?) died last summer. I suppose you remember him. Thomas G. Morry is also dead and John Morry's wife. Robert Morry at Caplin Bay has lost five daughters in diphtheria. My husband has not been well for some time. He was in England last summer and spent many happy hours with Fanny and her family. They are all such nice young people all engaged in doing some work for their Saviour. There has been a great deal of sickness here this winter. The weather has been very changeable. I trust your children will be a great comfort to you as they grow up. At present I am sure they are.

With very kind love and praying that you may be taught by the Holy Spirit for Christ's sake, believe me to be, dear Ada,

Your affectionate cousin Eliza H. Hoyles

210616:
I need to do further research to determine when she died. I previously had thought she predeceased her mother who died in February 1879 but now realise that is not so as she has written a letter the following month (see above). She is also named as the executrix of her husband's will but that may be an oversight. While he died on February 22, 1888, his will was written a decade earlier (June 5, 1878) and it may be that he simply never got around to revising it before his death.

!BIRTH: and Christening, Nfld.Archives,St. John
Registry 26B

!MARRIAGE: 26D;witnesses Robert Carter, William J.Rendell;
also 8 Dec 1849 P, Eliza Howe Carter,eldest daughter
Robert Carter J.P. Ferryland married Rev. William J.
Hoyles, widower, of Brigus.

Living

Sex: F

Parents

Father: Frederick Carter ¹³⁵⁴ Mother: Sarah Lavinia Parsons ¹⁰⁹⁷

Spouses and Children

1. Living

Elizabeth Carter

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 16 Feb 1831 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³⁰⁴ ^,426 Christening: 2 Jun 1831 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁴²⁶ Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: Pascoe Carter ³⁰⁴ Mother: Daria Radford ¹⁸⁶⁴

Spouses and Children

1. *Peter Payne ³⁰⁴ Marriage: 21 Dec 1854 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ¹⁴¹ ^,304 ^,1865 ^,2677
Marriage Events
• Minister/Priest: George Schofield, 21 Dec 1854, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Witnesses: James L? Williams, William Wills, John Radford, T.R. Ewing, 21 Dec 1854, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Marriage Notes

I think Freda got the marriage date wrong because Gert Crosbie has anannoncement of the marriage from the Courier and the Express dated November 23, 1854:

"Payne, Peter of Ferryland, married Carter, Elizabeth, daughter of late Pasco [note spelling] Carter of this city, Nov. 23/54CE"

200806:

BDM records that the marriage notice appeared on 23 Nov 1854 in: 1) Courier (Morning Courier & General Advertiser, Morning Courier) 1844-1878 2) Express (Newfoundland Express) 1851-1876

It does not say when the marriage actually took place. But since this date is before the date proposed by Freda I would think she got it wrong. Newspaper announcements appear after, not before the marriage.

It also states that Bride was the daughter of the late Pasco [sic] Carter of St. John's.

150113:

21-Dec 1854 St. Johns Peter PAYNE, bach, Ferryland Elizabeth CARTER, spin, St Johns James L? Williams, William Wills, John Radford, T.R. Ewing SJCC At least 1 child bapt Anglican. [Bride was the daughter of the late Pasco Carter of St. John's.]
Children: 1. Emily Elvina Payne 2. Daria Louisa Payne 3. Elizabeth Payne 4. Ada Carter Payne 5. Mary Jane Payne 6. Peter Payne 7. Jessie Sarah Payne 8. William Payne 9. Walter Payne 10. Henry Pascoe Payne

Notes
General:

111109 from NGB: Elizabeth CARTER Pascoe & Daria RADFORD b Feb 16 1831 bap June 2 1831

Elizabeth Carter

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 27 Aug 1981 - Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada ¹¹ Christening: Death: 27 Aug 1981 - Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada ¹¹ Burial: in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: Living Mother: Living

Elizabeth Carter Carter

Sex: F
AKA: Bessy Carter ³⁰⁴⁰
Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1834 - Dartmouth, Devon, England ³² ^,759 Christening: 3 Jan 1834 - St. Petrox Parish, Dartmouth, Devon, England ¹⁶⁰ Death: Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Birth: After 1831.
• Alt. Birth: 1834, Dartmouth, Devon, England.
• Residence: 1 St. Leonard Place, After 1834, Exeter, Devon, England.
• Census: Household of Eliza Howe Woolcombe, St. Leonard Place, Mt. Radford, 1841, Exeter, Devon, England. (Household Member)
• Census: Household of Eliza Howe Woollcombe, St. Leonard, Mt. Radford, 1841, Exeter, Devon, England. Household included a male and female servant, herself, her mother and a nephew and niece (James and Elizabeth Carter).
• Census: Household of Eliza Howe [Carter] Woolcombe, 1 St. Leonard Place, Mt. Radford, 1851, Exeter, Devon, England. (Household Member)
• Census: Household of Eliza Howe [Carter] Woollcombe, 1 St. Leonard Place, Mt. Radford, 1851, Exeter, Devon, England. Living with her aunt Eliza How [Carter] Woolcombe and her aged and, as it turned out, dying grandmother, Elizabeth [Howe] Carter, who died later that year.
• Living: 1 Lower Southernhay St., 23 Dec 1857, Exeter, Devon, England.
• Residence: 28 Pembridge Crescent, Bayswater, 1861, Notting Hill, Middlesex, England.
• Census: Marylebone, 1881, Paddington, Middlesex, England. (Household Member)
• Census: Not presently employed, 1891, Kensington & Chelsea, Greater London, England. (Household Member)

Parents

Father: James Howe Carter ¹⁰ ^,983 Mother: Thomasine Dunsterville Pyne ⁵ ^,10 ^,983

Spouses and Children

1. *Clarence Lucius O'Brien ¹⁰ ^,759 Marriage: 6 Nov 1861 - Notting Hill, Middlesex, England ¹⁴¹
Marriage Events
• Minister/Priest: 6 Nov 1861, Notting Hill, Middlesex, England. Rev. W.P.S. Bingham M.A., Incumbent of West Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England, Rev. Williers Smith M.A. of Husbands Crawley Bedford, England, and Rev. B.F. James M.A., Asst. Minister of Westminister. Marriage Notes

200806:

BDM reports that marriage notice appeared on 04 Dec 1861 in: 1) Times and General Commercial Gazette 1832-1895 2) Courier (Morning Courier & General Advertiser, Morning Courier) 1844-1878

Bride was the youngest daughter of James Howe Carter of Ferryland. Groom was the youngest son of the late Donatius O'Brien of Finors, County Clare, Ireland. Marriage performed by Rev. W.P.S. Bingham M.A., incumbent of West Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England, Rev. Williers SmithM.A. of Husbands Crawley Bedford, England, and Rev. B.F. James M.A., Asst. Minister of Westminister.

Notes
General:

020314 from Jean Carter Stirling:

Hi, Chris. The Robert Carter that wrote the journals had a younger sister Eliza Howe Carter who married 1) Bulley then 2) Woolcombe; she lived in England and seems to have looked after her mother and her brother's daughter (I have a photo of myself standing by that house during a visit to England) - she is mentioned often in the Carter Journals as is his brother, James who was in business with him, but lived in England, and visited Ferryland often enough to have a house there. This James (Howe) Carter married Thomasina Dunsterville Pyne of Dartmouth, I have her full background as well, she died age 40 …. and they had 3 children, Mary Oxnham Carter who married Arthur Kent Morry, 5 Nov. 1852 at St. John's (no issue); James who grew up to become Sheriff of Nfld. and Elizabeth Carter who married 1861 in London - Clarence O'Brien. The latter was young when her mother died, she went to live at that time with her aunt Eliza Woolcombe.

240417 from FindMyPast:

First name(s) Elizabeth Carter
Last name Carter
Birth year 1834
Birth date 03 Jan 1834
Baptism year 1834
Baptism place Dartmouth, St Saviour
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) James
Mother's first name(s) Thomasine
Father's occupation Merchant
Residence St.petrox
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from United Kingdom
Devon Family History Society
Transcriptions © Devon Family History Society

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

From Jean Carter Stirling's own family tree notes:

Elizabeth, also called Bessie in her uncle Robert Carter's Diary, would have been less than two years old when her mother died.

BAPT:St.Saviour Dartmouth, PR 4 15 5/2 #1441

CENSUS of 1851,St.Leonard's Exeter, (Reel 35, page 450) Elizabeth H Carter, 17, Niece, is part of Elizabeth R. Woolcombe's household, her father's sister.

MARRIAGE:Nfld. Newspaper: Carter - Elizabeth, youngest daughter of Ja mes Howe Carter, Ferryland, married December 4, 1861, Clarence Lucine O'Brien , youngest son of the late Donatius O"Brien, County Clare; in London.

Her baptismal record as transcribed by the Dartmouth Family History Society in their 2007 booklet actually gives her middle name as well as her surname as Carter. Probably an error but I am leaving it in for now.

Elizabeth Jane Buchan Carter

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 3 May 1825 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ¹⁸⁶⁴ Christening: 29 Jul 1825 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ¹⁸⁶⁴ Death: Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Birth: Cir 1825.
• Living: 2 Nov 1878, Northamptonshire, England.

Parents

Father: Peter Weston Carter Esq., JP ¹⁴² ^,3002 ^,3003 Mother: Sydney Spear Livingstone ²⁹² ^,983

Spouses and Children

1. *Capt. William Gilmore R. N. Companies ⁵ ^,10 ^,142 ^,481 ^,1429 Marriage: 9 Jan 1862 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁴⁸¹ ^,3041 ^,3042
Marriage Events
• Minister/Priest: A. M. Lower, M.A., 9 Jan 1862, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Witnesses: Sydney Mary Carter, F. B. T. Carter (Speaker, MHA), Catherine Louisa Emerson, W. V. Whiteway, Thos. Wood, A. O Hayward, one illegible Carter, most likely her father, 9 Jan 1862, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Children: 1. Living 2. Living 3. Living

Notes
General:

111109 from NGB: Elizabeth Jane CARTER Peter & Sydney b May 3 1825 bap July 29 1825 (Esquire)

010312 from NGB Anglican Cathedral Burial Register:

July 17 1829 Eliza Jane CARTER infant

Either the above burial record does not pertain to this Elizabeth Jane Carter or else there was another given her name after her death. I suspect that this was another child because there is evidence that this girl lived to marry and moved to England.

Elizabeth Sophia Carter

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 24 Jun 1872 - London, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada ²⁶⁷⁸ ^,3015 Christening: Death: 5 Jan 1873 - London, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada ²⁶⁷⁸ Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Residence: E. Horton St., 24 Jun 1872, London, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada. (Occupant)
• Residence: William St., 2 Nov 1873, London, Middlesex, Ontario, Canada. (Occupant)

Parents

Father: Joseph Simms Carter ⁵⁷³ ^,3014 ^,3015 Mother: Theresa Victoria Moore ²⁶⁷⁸ ^,3015

Elizabeth Viola Carter

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 1 Dec 1925 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ¹¹ Christening: Death: Bef 29 Dec 2017 ³⁰²⁸ Burial: Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: Alan George Carter ¹⁰ ^,142 ^,1051 ^,2954 Mother: Eda M. Pittman ¹⁰ ^,142 ^,543

Spouses and Children

1. *Ian Norman Brettell ¹⁰ ^,11 Marriage: 10 Jan 1953 - Wiltshire, England ¹¹ ^,1985 Marriage Notes

160418:

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s)ELIZABETH V
Last nameCARTER
Marriage quarter1
Marriage year1953
Registration month-
MarriageFinder™ELIZABETH V CARTER married
Ian N Brettell
Spouse's last nameBrettell
DistrictDevizes
District number-
CountyWiltshire
CountryEngland
Volume7C
Volume as transcribed7C
Page number903
Record setEngland & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryCivil Marriage & Divorce
Collections fromUnited Kingdom, England
© brightsolid online publishing ltd
Children: 1. Living 2. Living 3. Living 4. Living 2. REV Alan Gibson ¹⁰ ^,11 Marriage: 19 Dec 1975 - Wallasey, Metropolitan Borough of Wirral, Merseyside, England ¹¹

Notes
General:

Elizabeth "Biz" Carter and her second husband, the Rev.
Alan Gibson, have no children, although each have
children from a first marriage.

Emily Charlotte Carter

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 23 Mar 1854 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³³ ^,283 ^,1688 ^,3043 Christening: 11 Jun 1854 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁸² ^,1688 ^,3043 Death: Bef 13 Dec 1865 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁵⁹⁷ ^,3044 Burial: 13 Dec 1865 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁵⁹⁷ Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Birth: 23 May 1854, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Minister/Priest: H. H. Hamilton, 11 Jun 1854, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Residence: 91 Water St., 1863, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Occupant)
• Alt. Death: 13 Dec 1865, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Parents

Father: Robert Carter ¹⁰ ^,33 ^,2568 Mother: Mary Anne Simms ¹⁰ ^,2659 Marriage Did Not Marry

Notes
General:

041006: Died young according to Carter Family tree

290212 from NGB transcript of St. Thomas's register of Burials (note, not the date of death but the date of burial).

Dec 13 1865 Emily Charlotte CARTER 12 yrs

090312 from St. Thomas Bur reg: Dec 13 1865 Emily Charlotte CARTER 12 yrs

!CHRISTENING: NF Archives,Petty Hr.Register,Vol.31; by Rev.
H.H.Hamilton at Ferryland.

!DEATH:Nf Archives, St.Thomas'Register,St.John's, died at
12 yrs of age;

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